|Monday, July 7, 2008
I am Lee and I currently have 2 diabetics. Both came to
me this year after diagnosis.
They are numbers 6 and 7 you can see all my rescues at http://truckeesrest.tripod.com
I don't have the two new ones up on the page yet. None
of my diabetics have died from diabetes, it has been things like cancer
or old age.
I am a Licensed Veterinary Technician and also run a dog rescue.
I currently take care of 23 dogs and 15 cats and I work full time and am
mostly self supporting through my own contributions. I retired
from the Army Reserve 2 years ago.
I got my first diabetic in 1997 and found the list shortly afterward.
I have been on the list since then. None of the diabetics I have
had were my pets before diagnosis. They were brought to me through
one thing or another. Mostly that the owners could not care for them
after diagnosis. I do not home test unless they have symptoms that
I need to address. I take them to work with me periodically to do
spot checks. Simon lost his eye sight before I got him, but Sammy
still can see and I am working hard to maintain his sight. I have
both of these guys on R/D right now since I need to get them to lose weight.
Hill's is not using peanut hulls in their R/D any more so it is better
than it was and I can get it at cost. I actually search out diabetics,
because I know they have a hard time adopting them out of the shelters
and I have a talent for getting them regulated.
I just did an interview for the AKC Gazette so hopefully we will see
something in print soon about my family. The reporter asked me why
I do what I do and I told her that it would be like asking a preacher why
they did that, it is a calling. I also do it for the unconditional
love I get from the animals.
Lee with Raven (non diabetic dog)
I am pretty busy, so I don't routinely comment on most posts, but I
am happy to answer questions just put Lee in the subject line because that
is what I try to read first. Some times I miss, so if I don't respond
in a couple of days try again.
Diabetic Pet's Name: Simon
Birth: ? about 7 years ago
When Diagnosed: Feb. 08, 2008
Age Diagnosed: 7
Kind of Insulin and Amount Per Injection: 16u NPH
Food: Hill's R/D
Do you hometest?(blood, urine and/or observation) observation
Other Health Problems? Mass on Liver and overweight
Your Location: Silver Springs, NV
Diabetic Pet's Name: Sammy
Birth: ? about 10 years ago
When Diagnosed: May 08, 2008
Age Diagnosed: 10
Kind of Insulin and Amount Per Injection: 12u NPH
Food: Hill's R/D
Do you hometest?(blood, urine and/or observation)
Other Health Problems? Overweight
Your Location: Silver Springs, NV
Tippy was our first diabetic. I figured out the problem
based on the PU/PD and the fact she went blind almost over night.
It was at the same time I was caring for her owner who had cancer and I
really wasn't paying that much attention to the dogs. After her owner
died, I noticed the symptoms and took her to the vet. He put her on Ultralente,
BID. I had no clue at that time. He was the doctor, he knew
best. Thank doG, Tippy did well on U. She free fed and that seemed
to work well with that insulin. Tippy died at age 19 of kidney failure,
was it related to the diabetes, who knows, she was 19 at the time. Tippy
went to the Rainbow Bridge on 3/26/03
Rainbow Bridge Webpage: http://www.caninediabetes.org/rbtippy.html
Big Vinnie was diabetic number 2. I picked him up from
a boarding kennel where he was taken after he was found as a stray.
It was Thanksgiving week and they needed the space for paying customers.
I was called because he was a Golden Retriever. As soon as
I had him in the car I smelled the smell. He was crusted in sticky dried
urine. I stopped by a vet on the way home with him. BG
was 665. That vet recommended NPH, but since I had Tippy and a bottle
of U I figured that that would work ok. It was a mess. We
got him on the the NPH and he did really well, until he got hemangiocarcoma,
that was not diabetes related. He was with us a little over a year when
we lost him to hemangiosarcoma Jan 19, 2001.
Phoenix was our third diabetic. He came to us from a shelter
in another county. We traded an adoptable dog for Phoenix.
He was totally emaciated. My boss called him Red Skeleton. He had
been uncontrolled for so long that he weighed about 27 pounds. He
should have weighed 45. He was my most challenging project.
He also had pancreatic insuffiency and was hypothyroid. We tried
hard, but he was really too far gone when we got him, but I worked with
him for nearly a year and it was his choice to give up, not mine. Phoenix
joined our other bridge kids on 7/19/04 after his heroic struggle with
diabetes, low thyroid, pancreatic insuffiency. We miss him a great
Molly, the only cat in the bunch, was our fourth diabetic.
She came to me from a cat rescue in Montana, mostly because I had much
more experience with diabetes than they did. The vet in Montana
had her on U, that they had watered down for ease of measuring. I
switched her to straight U and she was with us for a few months, but again
she had been uncontrolled for so long her kidneys began to fail.
Since diabetic cats do better on high protein food and bad kidneys need
low protein food, we were in a Catch 22. We worked with it for a
while but she was so miserable we let her go. Molly joined our other diabetic
bridge kids on 10/12/04 dying of kidney failure.
Shadow is our fifth diabetic.
DX 2/04 15u NPH BID
She came to us when her elderly owner brought her in because she was
PU/PD. Dr. Lisa was not there but I knew as soon as I saw her.
Tested her BG and she was over 400. Told the owner to come back when
the boss was there and after I got home that day I started making preparation
for Shadow to come live with us. I was right as that Friday Dr. Lisa
called me and asked me if I had room for Shadow as her owner was going
to have to put her down otherwise. So Shadow came home to live with
us. Shadow did well for over 2 years before she died on 7/22/06.
During this time I was on this list and somewhere along this time Margo
joined up. We went head to head over a couple of issues as I had
been to classes and knew much more than she did. The Vets teaching
these classes were nationally known doctors. What I have found out,
with Margo's help, is that if you manage your diabetic closer
to the human method, that 2 year survival rate increases dramatically.
Our sugarbabies die from things unrelated to diabetes. Since then
I have been on a mission to ask questions of these experts then relate
my experiences. I have also learned enough from the information discussed
on this list to save many pets an untimely death. Unfortunately I
have also seen people on the list that lost their sugarbabies because they
followed their vets instructions to the letter.
Much of the information we have is anecdotal evidence. Most Vets
will tell you that cats get diabetic neuropathy, dogs don't. That
is because they rarely see dogs that have made it past the 2 year mark.
Most vets will put dogs and cats on Science Diet W/D. We have found
that is not always the best food for our sugarbabies. We have found
that allergies can cause problems with regulation. We know that steroids
are not good for our sugarbabies. We know that it may take some time
to get them regulated. We know that sometimes stress has a bearing
on the BG levels in both dogs and cats. Some breeds seem to be predisposed
to diabetes. And much more.
During my years in the Veterinary Medicine business I have seen lots
of Vets deal with diabetes and I am amazed at some of their lack of knowledge.
Just recently I had a client come in for some eye meds for her dog.
She bounces back and forth between vets. The other vet had prescribed
an eye ointment with steroids in it. As I was filling the prescription
we were talking and she told me her dog was diabetic. We had no clue
as it was diagnosed by another vet and she didn't think it was important
to tell the other vets. Good Grief. Another dog had come
in because their vet was unavailable, we diagnosed the diabetes, got it
started on insulin, their vet got back from vacation and told them to put
the dog down as diabetes is a death sentence and they were wasting their
time. We had some one come in with a cat, the other hospital was
unable to draw blood as the cat was one of "those" cats. They said they
would not deal with it because it would die if they put it under anesthesia
to draw the blood. We talked to them, put the cat under anesthesia,
got the blood, diagnosed it. The owner is diabetic, so I set them
up with instructions on how to home test, good thing because after 6 months
the cat honeymooned.
One thing we must all remember is that Veterinarians have to know a
little bit about many different species (Can a goat get diabetes? A frog?
A horse?). And in reality it is much more than a human doctor needs
to know as they are only dealing with one species. Vets deal with
large and small animals, reptiles and birds. No doctor, human or
animal walks on water. They only know what they study.
Always remember that this is not a one size fits all disease and that
there is no textbook with all the information in it.
at the intersection of flotsam and jetsam, west of Desperation, NV
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